Jul 21 2017
Here are a few more questions asked in the May 27, 2017 Satsanga with Guy Needler that dance around this basic question: What is the purpose of meditation vs. channeling?
What is the purpose of meditation vs. channeling?
Q: Our Source has urged us to meditate at least 30 minutes a day. What is the fundamental purpose of meditation vs. channeling? Are they both meant to increase our bandwidth [connectivity with Source]?
Guy Needler’s Comments:
GSN: “Meditation is a function of disassociation from the physical. It’s one way of achieving connectivity with Source, Self, not in that order, and other beings, and it creates the possibility of channeling.
Channeling is a higher function than meditation, and is part of the awareness and awakening process. It’s also one of the functions of enlightenment — not THE function of enlightenment, it’s one of them, and it leads to the enlightenment process.
So the whole point of it is to learn to connect with the greater reality, to be in the greater reality and commune, converse and interact with the greater reality, and not just the reality that the human form connects with. That’s the whole point of it.
The problem is when our eyes are open, and our ears are hearing, and our nose is smelling, and our mouth is tasting, we are immersed in the human state. And so we are confused by that state, completely confused to the point where we are in the full belief that we are the human body. So we need to move ourselves out of that zone. And meditation can get us there.
When we get to being an enlightened yogi, so to speak, or individual, we’re able with meditation to turn off the senses, so we can enter into a complete state of solitude. So no amount of noise or visual interaction will move us out of that state. And that means that a good yogi can meditate with their eyes open.
And if you look at a lot of the old religious paintings, you’ll see that a lot of saints have got their eyes pointing up towards their third eye. That’s because they’re in “samadhi” or they’re in a state of enlightenment or awareness whilst they’re incarnate. And that illustrates to me that the individuals who are painting those images understood that these people were in communion with Source all the time or God all the time, because their eyes were pointing towards the third eye, and that actually, although they were here, they weren’t all here. And they were communing with the greater reality at the same time.
So it helps us to switch off our association with this particular environment now in our human form, and helps us to move through the possibility of channeling, which is sort of a lower function, if you want to call it that, in terms of the communication with that greater environment, and the beings within that greater environment, the greater reality.”
Q: I get the strangest sense of a veil of conformity and/or control as if we are so programmed to think small and live in a limited way. At the same time a glimpse of unlimitedness that is available as we disengage from the frequencies and wavelengths of the so-called normal world. Is there any way to speed up the process other than just meditating, surrendering and choosing love instead of fear?
GSN: “Ultimately it’s best to keep doing what you’re doing, and if you can, do a bit more. So meditating is a very important tool actually, as is doing things like kriya yoga, and the Traversing the Frequencies work, that I teach as part of my particular way of ascending the frequencies. And so when we do more of this, we will have as we progress more and more moments of enlightenment, so to speak, where we see through the veil, and understand what the greater reality is. And as we do that, we start to recognize that there is much more to existence than this.
But basically it’s to do with keeping being disassociated with the lower frequencies of the gross physical. And that’s important, because it allows us to focus on the higher frequencies. Now clearly we have to engage in being here. We are responsible for our duties, for our careers, our roles as a partner to somebody, and maintaining what we have, pay bills, etc.
There’s not many of us that could live like Jesus used to, or like the old yogis used to in India. These days it’s more complicated, much more complicated than it used to be.
But what I would say is that extend the meditation and go deeper. It is, if you’re capable, it’s better to do longer meditations and less of them than it is to do regular meditations and short.
When you get to a point where you can access deeper levels of understanding through extended meditations, you’ll find that you can do the same level of depth very quickly later. So it’s almost like learning to ride a push bike, then a motor cycle, then a car. We have to start at the beginning and we gradually sort of progress to different levels of competence and ability and functionalities as a result of it.
And eventually we get to the point where we master the tool that we’re using, and that is the meditation process, and the functions that allow us to become more connected and to the point where do become totally connected. The thing to do is believe, not just believe but know that this veil of conformity is a small veil. It’s just that we make it very big. And that it’s easy to move through but sometimes it takes dedication. And depending upon how we are bombarded by low frequency interactions with others, because they can drag us down as well, and how to protect ourselves depends on how fast we can move upwards and go through that veil.”
Q: Are human beings meant to reach a point of “emptiness” where our journey as a seeker ends, where we have no more questions to ask?
GSN: “As human beings, yes. At some point, I wouldn’t call it emptiness, I would call it full understanding. At that point, we don’t need to incarnate any more. The need to incarnate disappears, and we have become a very sort of complete individual, and so we can move on from incarnation and just go and continue our evolution in the rest of the multiverse in the disincarnate state.”
OR are we meant to continually expand our thought processes to higher and higher levels?
GSN: “We are continually expanding our thought processes to higher and higher levels to the point where we don’t need to incarnate. That may take various different incarnations in its own right. But in essence what we have to do is do the best we can in this particular incarnation. And if we can reach a state of enlightenment in this incarnation, then we can shave off the need for a lot more incarnations to assist in our evolutionary progression. And so we can reduce the number of times we have to incarnate, and we can ascend and evolve faster.”
“Spiritual practice is not just sitting and meditating. Practice is looking, thinking, touching, drinking, eating, and talking. Every act, every breath, and every step can be practice and can help us to become more ourselves.” – Thich Nhat Hanh
For more information, please see:
Guy Needler: Home – Guy Steven Needler | The Dawn of a New Age of Science (new website) & books: The History of God, Beyond the Source – Book 1, Beyond the Source – Book 2, Avoiding Karma, The Origin Speaks, 2015, The Anne Dialogues, 2016
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