Do Deceased Loved Ones Guide Us From the Astral Levels?

Here are some questions I asked in the April 28, 2018 World Satsanga about deceased loved ones that we may contact after their death through mediums, dreams or other means. Do they stay in the astral plane? What happens to their ego and personality after death? Do deceased loved ones guide us from the astral levels?

Do deceased loved ones guide us from the astral levels?

Note: The term “True Energetic Self” means the Higher Self (Oversoul/Godhead) and the “Aspect” is the soul projected from the Higher Self that animates the human form/body. My questions (in bold) are followed by Guy Needler’s answers (below).

I’d like to know more about our “Guides” on the astral level, such as relatives that have passed on, who try to help their loved ones that are still in the physical. Some of them seem to group together (e.g. grandmother, uncle, father, etc.) on the Other Side to guide the incarnate loved ones they left behind.

Sometimes our guides and helpers take the form of those individuals, who we were interacting with in a family scenario or loved one scenario or friendship scenario, because it’s something that we can relate to in our limited understanding and limited level of expansiveness. So although it may look like a grandmother or a father or an uncle or a brother or a deceased partner that’s helping us, it’s more likely to be one of our helpers, who is manifesting a form in our minds to create a link or a bridge between them and us to help us move forwards, for instance.

There are times when those individuals do actually help us, but normally that’s quite rare. They’ve got their own things to do and they move on. The only time that they may interact with us post-demise of the physical body is if they want to let us know that they are okay.

When my wife (Anne) ascended and died, she created a signal for me to let me know that she was okay, and that was a little electronic gadget that was used to open beer bottles, can you believe? When this gadget was in contact with the metal of the beer bottle top, it would go off and play a Christmas tune. It had been hidden away for a long time and I’d even forgotten what it was and where it was (in a place where there was no other metal contact). When I meditated on Anne seven hours after her human form had demised and said: Okay, where is this message you were going to give me? This thing sounded off a couple of times — actually about three or four times during the day it went off as well.

So sometimes they do help out just to let us know that they’re okay. Very, very rarely do they stick around, because the guide and helpers help us. So it’s usually the guide and helpers that are using their forms, and sometimes there’s energetic signatures to make their level of communication with us more robust.

Are these relatives still existing on the astral plane (FB 4-7), meaning are their souls still in transit, because they’re choosing to do an “astral detour” to help and guide their loved ones from the Other Side for several years after their death?

Those that stay on those levels tend to be those individuals, who do want to stay for a little bit, yes. As I’ve just explained, it’s generally not the case, they move on. But it can also be those, who get stuck. And getting stuck on these levels is only a temporary thing anyway, because their guide and helpers usually move them on as quick as they can do.

But some individuals do reject the fact that their human form is deceased, has died, is demised, and so they try to maintain a link with the Earth. And that means that they stick around these astral levels at frequency bands 4-7. Frequency band 4 is the lower astral, frequency band 5 is the upper lower astral. Frequency band 6 is the lower upper astral, and frequency band 7 is the upper astral. So they do sometimes stick around, but it’s usually not for long, usually to give a message, or if they are so immersed in their incarnation that they still believe they’re alive and their body has died.

OR are their souls already doing their life review at the level of their True Energetic Self in the multiverse — and then from THAT level, are they able to project a small aspect of themselves with a familiar “personality” to the astral plane to help an incarnate loved one as needed?

That’s a possibility as well. That does sometimes happen. In effect, it’s more likely that they’ve moved on. They’re in the condition where they’re individualized still and communing with the bigger part of themselves, the True Energetic Self (Higher Self), and they are experiencing communion as well as reviewing what has been experienced.

If it’s beneficial to the individual, who is still incarnate to experience some connectivity, then that may well happen, if it helps them move on and to work with their own life plan.

OR is it a soul that is kept projected outside of the True Energetic Self in back-to-back lives?

That can happen as well. That’s a possibility. It’s worthwhile noting that the True Energetic Self can allow a transient communication of that Aspect (soul) that was projected into a physical form at any point. The soul can be in any of the different types of communion, or if it’s kept outside of the True Energetic Self in back-to-back lives as well. So even if it’s in full communion, if it’s felt that it’s necessary or if there’s a request or a requirement from the other incarnate Aspect via its own True Energetic Self to give it a push in some way or give it some encouragement in some way, then there will be a level of minor interaction. And that can be from any of the different types of communion.

If you look on my website, www.beyondthesource.org, go into Events and Lectures, you’ll see the different pdf files and different lectures there called “What We Are and How We Incarnate,” you’ll see the different types of communion that we achieve, when we come back from our particular incarnation. Any of those different types of communion are used by us depending upon how we integrate with our True Energetic Self, and from any of those different types of communion, there can be a transient projection or a transient level of contact between an Aspect that’s returned to the energetic and an Aspect that is still incarnate.

OR is it a new incarnation only at a higher frequency level to act as a guide before the True Energetic Self gradually pulls itself out of the physical universe altogether?

Not generally, no. True Energetic Selves in general are still working with the physical universe. There’s not many individuals (although I’ve seen quite a few recently), whose True Energetic Self is in a position of deciding not to incarnate in the physical universe yet.

The reason I’m asking this is that some of the dead relatives seem to have a “snarky” personality shortly after death, but they also seem to “mature” or evolve or become wiser and more expansive the more time they spend on the Other Side.

Well, the answer to that is they do become more mature and evolve, because they become more absorbed in or have some level of increased communion with their True Energetic Self. So even before they go into communion, they start to gain access again to everything that they’ve achieved or experienced in previous incarnations and the incarnations of other Aspects of their True Energetic Self [i.e. their soul group]. So they definitely become more evolved or wiser, because they no longer have the limitations of that which is being created as a function of their human incarnation.

So from that perspective, when you see a soul go from being maybe a low intelligence type individual, and then if some medium communicates with them, and then they become very wise and benevolent, then you know that the personality, that was a function of ego that’s created by incarnation, is being wiped away and replaced by the VAST level of experience and evolution that that soul normally has. That’s why they become wiser on the Other Side, because they’re more in communication with what they are. They’re more interactive with their True Energetic Self and they’re more interactive with the environment that’s around them.

When you say the Ego dissolves when the body dies, it seems that some of the human “personality” or quirks are still with them on the Other Side shortly after death. Is that coming from the remnants of the ego’s lower personality?

No. The ego is created as a function of the near total isolation of the incarnate Aspect from the True Energetic Self. That sentient energy that’s projected into the human vehicle or other vehicle starts to gain a personality, and starts to believe it’s the vehicle. The personality is created as a function of incarnation and interaction with parents, colleagues, friends, loved ones and the environment. It does dissolve as a function of the demise of the human form. But the content of what it is is also absorbed, because it’s part of the experience. That which was created is part of the what the overall experience is.

So even though the ego is created and dissolved, what’s dissolved is the ego’s ability to command and control the sentience. That which was created as a function of near total isolation is absorbed and is used as an experiential medium. It’s just that it doesn’t become the dominating factor of who and what that Aspect is.

However, it is used as a bridge between those who are disincarnate and those who are incarnate, because otherwise, how would you recognize that soul? If somebody wants to communicate with a deceased relative or a deceased partner, they would not recognize who that partner was, if it came through a trance medium, unless the personality that they recognize as being that person is used as a communication medium. So they use it sometimes as a means of communication, as a means of recognition. That’s what it is there for really.

When does that lower personality get completely dissociated from the soul? Is it only after the soul partially or fully reintegrates with its True Energetic Self?

The moment we move our Aspect out of the incarnate state and it becomes energetic, the personality of the ego loses its grip on the command and control of the aspect of sentience that was used in the incarnation. It gets absorbed as part of the experience, but it’s not what is the Aspect, what is the True Energetic Self. It’s just a smaller function of it. It’s a smaller temporary personality that’s been created, so it becomes resorbed almost straightaway.

And the feeling that the Aspect gets is that the personality that’s part of itself becomes like a small drop in the ocean, and the bigger personality takes over, and all the memories of experiences, learning and evolution associated with previous incarnations and other evolutionary cycles all comes back into the sentience of that which is temporarily individualized.

And when we go into the different levels of communion, the levels of sentience and experiences associated with the Aspect start to then collate or blend into ALL of the experiences of the other Aspects associated with that True Energetic Self and the work that the True Energetic Self does in its own right. Okay, so basically everything is absorbed later, although that which is the total experience of the Aspect comes to the forefront almost straightaway.

I hope this post helps you see what happens to us and our loved ones, when we transition after death to the astral levels and/or way beyond them. 🙂

Note: Needler’s wife died but the “energetic Anne” stayed around long enough to channel a book (“The Anne Dialogues”) with him about the afterlife experience of the soul, its Higher Self, guides and helpers from a higher perspective than ever before.