Who Gains the Most Karma: the Evil Leader Or Commander Or Follower?

Here is a post that seems as timely now as ever. Here are a few questions that I asked Guy Needler to comment on after witnessing the human crisis with thousands of immigrant children being separated from their parents at the border, then “disappeared” into detention camps around the country. Who accrues the most karma in these situations? Who gains the most karma: the evil leader or commander or follower?

Who gains the most karma: the evil leader or commander or follower?

Are we re-living or re-visiting the events that occurred in World War II? Are we (humanity) given the possibility to choose a different direction this time around?

Needler said there are some similarities there. Basically, when we go to human rights, we do have things that repeat themselves throughout history. He added:

If we don’t get them right the first time, we can see what’s going on with clearer detail the next time it happens, and we’re able to hopefully do a better job the next time.
This is a function of group karma or even world karma, so that we can get back into a better way of responding or reacting on a larger scale rather than the individual scale.
Whether the route is considered to be better based on today’s level of education than what the expectations were in the middle of the 1900’s is yet to be seen.

It depends on how the collective political groups (those who have incarnated in the political groups) and the population surrounding those groups (who have put them in power) are in acceptance of or in responsibility for that which they have done.

Who accrues karma from the human rights violations that have happened: Those in power? Or those executing or following the orders of those in power?

Needler said that in real terms it’s what you DO that counts. The karmic function will be “graduated” starting from those that think to those that order others to do to those that actually do or take action. He explained:

What you think can create karma, because how we think, behave and act can be karmic, if it’s materialistic and addictive to the low frequency thoughts, behaviors and actions of the material world.
If you think about doing something, but don’t do it, that just means you’ve gone a certain way down the road of a low frequency thought, and therefore potentially the behavior without going all the way to the action stage.
Those that are ordered to do something have a CHOICE to agree with the commander and follow the orders OR disagree with the commander and fight against it. It’s their choice as to which way they think and work, whether to negate the potential karmic effect or not.

During the Nüremberg trials, the famous excuse given by the perpetrators was: “I was just following orders.” Again, the level of individual karma accrued from committing atrocities depends on the role you play. For example:

Some of us think that evil or authoritarian leaders, like Hitler (or Idi Amin, Mugabe and others) are the ones that accrue the most karma, since they’re the leader, initiator or thinker, who created the policy or suggested things to others. That’s one level of karma.
Those around him, like Goebbels, Göring, Mussolini, etc. took his words and activated them in the way that they wanted to. They ordered others to do some horrific things with the Jewish people, for instance. That’s another level of karma.
Those that took that thought and behavior behind it and created it into an action, like the soldiers that followed the orders that they were given to round up and kill the people accrued the most individual karma in that situation.

It’s different levels of karma that are associated with the individuals, who are involved with the downstream behaviors and actions of one person’s thought or a group of people’s thoughts. On top of that, there is a group karmic effect, because they’re all involved in the same thing or a mass event.

They would have to be responsible for the various levels of karmic interaction and also for the actions of the group dynamic.
Although one individual may have thought something or made an odd comment, and others react to that odd comment and bring it into fruition, they’re also linked together as a group, because they collectively created the issue that’s caused the end product of that initial thought.

So it goes from thinking, which is a minor level of karma relatively speaking to a major level of karma, based on the amount of action and interaction and how it affects others around you.

What are these events on our world telling us?

Needler said the whole thing is just showing us that this reality is questionable. It’s showing us that we’ve let go of this reality.

As a general population we need to take control again and move forwards and guide these people that we’ve put in power, sometimes by accident or lack of focus on what we’re looking for and sometimes actually by a vote.
We need to guide them into being better citizens and work on behalf of the higher frequency population and not those of a lower frequency population.

Given what’s happening on our world, we’ve got our work cut out! We the People need to take loving and compassionate action to show our so-called leaders what we want our world to look like. This is about self-responsibility. It applies to us and to our governments and politicians, who need to step up and take personal responsibility as well.

We need to BE the change we wish to see in the world.

WE need to be responsible for the energy we bring to every situation we create.

For more information, please see:

Guy Steven Needler: Why the Source allows Suffering & Conflict | Guy Steven Needler & Home – Guy Steven Needler | The Dawn of a New Age of Science (new website) & books: The History of God, Beyond the Source – Book 1, Beyond the Source – Book 2, Avoiding Karma, The Origin Speaks, 2015, The Anne Dialogues, 2016 & Personal communication

Nadia Rubaii & Max Pensky: Preventing crimes against humanity in the US (https://theconversation.com/preventing-crimes-against-humanity-in-the-us-98679)

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