Some people call Lucifer the “Fallen Angel,” while others think of him as a “Light Bearer.” Which is it? What kind of entity was Lucifer? What was its role in mankind’s history? Let’s take a closer look to remove the misconceptions and answer this question: Was Lucifer given a bad rap or not?
Here is a series of Questions and Answers from Guy Needler’s blog, where he (“GN”) was conversing with our Source (“SE”). I’ve asked some additional questions privately and with a friend in a session with Needler. All the answers are given below:
Background from The Darker Side of the Light 8 of 20 | Guy Steven Needler:
GN: What is the history of Lucifer and who was he before the creation of the dark side?
SE: Lucifer was one of the first entities to get involved in the physical human being project and is directly responsible for allowing humanity to have the rare pleasure of having total free will when in the physical realms and those levels closest to the physical called the lower and upper astral.
He was classified as bad or evil purely because humanity is where it is now, in the lowest dimensions and frequencies possible. You see when energetic mankind started this project, you were all existing in very high frequencies, with even the physical projection that you used being what you would call translucent or not solid, more gas like in substance than physical. Although “gas like” is not a correct description it will suffice.
GN: So Lucifer is responsible for us being stuck here at this level.
SE: No, you all are. Lucifer simply gave you the means…The means to soar high in the dimensions and frequencies by making the right choices as they are presented to you, you making the decision on which way to jump, without the influence of other higher / collective minds.
GN: Ah, we are back to the conversation about free versus collective minds.
SE: No not quite, you see, even though you are free to make your own decisions, you are still part of a collective, a collective entity [humanity] and therefore a collective mind. Lucifer merely suggested and debated hard for the incarnate human entity to have autonomy in order to maximise the evolution opportunity and accelerate the evolution process.
His idea was maligned by the other key workers on the physical humanity project as being unnecessary and dangerous, dangerous insomuch as the individual entity or that part of the entity that was projected into the physical, that which was incarnate would lose communication with the rest of itself or humanity. He gained some support from some entities that ran a “what if” scenario using the Akashic and established that the opportunities for evolutionary expansion and experience was enormous and should therefore be considered. On the other side, the opportunities for dropping down the dimensions were also there, but not so high in the statistics in terms of becoming a reality. It was based upon the higher probability of success that Lucifer managed to win the debate with the others, leading the project, that giving free will was the correct way to go to maximise the opportunity.
The big issue was that he decided NOT to advertise the possibility that humanity could actually drop down to the lowest levels as well by choosing this route, even though in doing so humanity would make its greatest advance in pulling out of the lowest of levels. He saw this as the excuse the others needed to veto his idea, the risk would be too great he said they would say, so, he decided to withhold all of the information that came from the Akashic.
In withholding this information he committed a crime, which he was free to do, but compounded with the fact that humanity incarnate actually managed to go along this path, the worst path from the others’ point of view, and leading them to make a decision, that they would NOT have made had they known, resulted in Lucifer being maligned as an evil entity, “one that is not of the whole”. As a result of this he was asked to leave the group of individuals, that had both developed the physical body for humanity incarnate and been the “steering committee,” if you want to call it that.
You have carvings and images that show Lucifer as a fallen angel. Let me say this, Lucifer is not a fallen angel – he has just changed the type of work that he is doing now. Agreed it (he) is not involved with humanity within the same capacity that it was, but it is nevertheless making significant contribution, especially in understanding the implications and opportunities presented to humanity whilst it is currently residing in this level of frequency, as this is where Lucifer was most experienced. Without knowledge of these levels he would not have been able to make a decision to withhold this information.
I will say it again. His own knowledge was damaging to his own arguments to give humanity free will, the free will to work in isolation, in independence of the greater reality, the ability to work alone and be responsible only for yourself to truly experience the self in isolation.
GN: He really has made a big impact on humanity hasn’t he?
SE: Bigger than he expected, and he has gained a reputation that is not equivalent to his mistake, but nevertheless, to date, humanity is following the path that was predicted, if it individually (collectively) made the decision to go this way, which it did. Now Lucifer is paying the price, the price of not being totally open to his peers, even though he is still doing a good job and is now very open with his information, even if it is controversial.
GN: From our perspective then, the dark side was therefore created by incarnate mankind, with the means to create it (attraction to the lower frequencies) given to us by the being we call Lucifer.
Here are some additional Questions about Lucifer in sessions with Needler:
Is Lucifer an individual or a collective of beings from another star system? Which system(s) and what kind of form factor(s)? Some people suggest that Lucifer is a 4D astral entity OR a sixth density social memory complex/group soul OR a 9D hybrid Anunnaki-Reptilian collective with an antichrist agenda or false savior role?
GN: Lucifer is a single sentient entity that has a body of energy. It is not incarnate and therefore does not come from a star system.
Is Lucifer associated with any planet in our solar system, such as Saturn or Venus (“morning star” where the “Kumaras” are stationed?) or even Jupiter and Mars?
GN: I have just been told that it did have a favorite planet and that is Uranus. It has no association though.
In your YouTube video on “Ascended Masters,” you mentioned that Lucifer was one of the group of entities that created us to initiate the incarnation program for humans. What was the name of the “steering committee” that he was banned from? Where is that incarnation program being run from and by whom?
GN: I did not receive a name, it was just a group of highly evolved (at that time) entities that wanted to project themselves into the lower frequencies to accelerate their evolutionary content.
We ALL run the incarnate program because we are part of it, but we use (assign) a series of guide/s and helpers to work on the logistics, the learning gained and its evolutionary content. Mankind is obsessed with the need for a name or label or a hierarchy of beings in control, but to my knowledge although there was a committee (group) of entities who decided to specialize for a moment in the creation of an incarnate vehicle and its method of survival, it had no name and was overseen by the Source. I only know it as the human being project.
Was Lucifer was given a bad rap for failing to tell the rest of the working group about the possibility that mankind could drop in frequencies when given individualized free will?
GN: I’m being told no, because it knew the rules of engagement in terms of being part of such a group and understanding the possibilities that could happen as a function of allowing incarnate individuals, who are almost totally cut off from who and what they are to have individualized free will to the point where they could destroy each other or themselves.
And it showed the possibility and the possibility of the evolutionary progression and from having individualized free will is significant. But also the amount of evolutionary progression from dropping down the frequencies and coming back up again is even more significant. So Lucifer or the entity that was Lucifer that saw that was able to understand it and know it, so to speak.
So it decided to not advertize the fact, that to gain evolution, there sometimes has to be a downward step, because there was that much enthusiasm for using incarnation and individualized free will in incarnation to accelerate the overall evolutionary progression of smaller aspects of True Energetic (Higher) Selves, that anything that was classified as being detrimental to this plan wouldn’t have been accepted.
So basically, if hadn’t done what he had done, we wouldn’t be being incarnate now. So yeah, you could argue that it was a bad rap, but actually in real terms we may be incarnating in a better way. So that’s the way to think about.
What were the other entities in that working group doing? Were they asleep at the wheel?
GN: When we give people authority, we assume that that authority is going to be used in the correct way. And so when somebody appears to be of the correct character, irrespective of whether they’re incarnate or not, and that individual and that authority that is given to them, we expect that that authority is going to be correctly used.
So you could call it being asleep at the wheel, yes, but I would call it misjudgment, if you want to call it that, insomuch as they weren’t or they didn’t expect the individual that they allowed the authority to show certain scenarios would only give half the picture, so to speak.
Were they not able to access the Akashic records or see the event spaces for themselves?
GN: Again, they trusted this individual, so they didn’t need to — they assumed, as with all of these issues of management, and you know, when we ask somebody to do a role for us that they’re going to do it with the best thought processes and with all the right things in mind and not try to cheat us. Although we do know that in certain businesses certain people do suggest that certain things are the right way to go and then they hive off money, so even at that level the idea of trust as being the ultimate reason for giving authority was not fully understood. And there’s been a lot of learning as a result of that.
What was the % probability that mankind would DROP in frequency vs. the probability that they would go UP in frequency?
GN: Let’s have a look. At the start, it was around 1%. But there was something else associated with it, and that was that there could be a collective domino effect. So it could go from being a logarithmic possibility of being very, very low to all of a sudden being very, very high. So a logarithmic curve is a minor change and then all of a sudden it can go massive and go exponential. So from that perspective, it’s something where it doesn’t look like a lot, but it could be a massive amount, if that makes sense?
So in some respects, it’s what could be a fraction of 1% at the time, and therefore, insignificant in terms of the need to report it, can end up being a 99% certainty later. And that’s why the entity called Lucifer didn’t broadcast it. Does that make sense at all?
It’s a bit like understanding that O-rings can fail in a space shuttle. The chance of an O-ring failure is usually zero. But if it’s been put in wrong, or if it’s manned into a form where it’s supposed to form a seal or if it’s cracked or the rubber is substandard, then it can fail. And it’s that level of percentage chance that was taken as being: No, we’re okay, we don’t need to worry about it so much.
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I hope this gives you a better idea about Lucifer and what its role in our evolutionary path was. As Needler pointed out, we wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Lucifer, but the real enemy is our own low frequency thoughts, behaviors and actions. That’s something that we need to work on and to detach ourselves from by changing from within and without (see What Is the Cause Of Addiction? – Big Picture Questions & How To Defuse Duality and Transcend Misguided Thoughtforms? – Big Picture Questions.com).
For more information, please see:
Guy Needler: Home – Guy Steven Needler | The Dawn of a New Age of Science (new website) & books: The History of God, Beyond the Source – Book 1, Beyond the Source – Book 2, Avoiding Karma, The Origin Speaks, 2015, The Anne Dialogues, 2016, The Curators (in press)
Ulla Sarmiento: Spiritual Guide To Our Multiverse, 2018
Ulla Sarmiento: Spiritual Guide To Our Afterlife, 2019
Anodea Judith: Eastern Body, Western Mind: Psychology and the Chakra System as a Path to the Self, 2004
Susan Thesenga: The Undefended Self, 2001
Anodea Judith: Eastern Body, Western Mind: Psychology and the Chakra System as a Path to the Self, 2004
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